Another kind of source of light colors for esoteric use and general lighting
Q and A - Researchment proposal, questions and expectations
Depiction of experimental dielectric barrier
high pressure discharge lamps
with annular arc-tube and coaxial external electrodes
ED28/ED90 and ED37/ED120 outer bulb, EX39 base
Q - Let we look back to the previous post and try a comparative description with the fluorescent medium pressure mercury lamp?
A - Here it is: https://lightcommunitylighting.blogspot.com/2020/08/blog-post.html.
Q - What is it intended to be, how to look like?
A - An excimer lamp, in a form of a HID lamp, shaped as an ED/BT fluorescent coated bulb with an E(X)39/40 screw cap.
Q - Was ever manufactured a similar lamp?
A - Not in this form, but researchments were conducted in order to bring the excimer lamps into 'visible light'.
Q - Do you consider a researchment of all components from scratch, or do you rather consider to put together components that are already 'on market'?
A - At this stage, for now, the intention is to put together what is already at disposal, thus some components might be particularly shaped.
Q - So, what do you need to put together in order to achieve the desired lamp, - the excimer lamp with visible light output?
A - Roughly, all the main component parts of a HID lamp; - arc-tube, frame, outer bulb, stem, screw-cap: http://lamptech.co.uk/Documents/M1%20Introduction.htm
Q - So, have we in this case too, as also in the previous case of medium pressure UV lamp, the excimer lamp 'as is' as (instead of) the arc tube of a HID ED/BT shaped lamp?
A - Yes, the case is the same.
Q - And, what parts of the known HID bulb have to be particularly shaped?
A - The frame, in a way as shown on left in the depiction above, and also in the previous post http://lightcommunitylighting.blogspot.com/2018/12/blog-post_18.html in order to hold the excimer lamp as an 'arc tube'. More exactly, the frame has to be fixed on (around) the stem and the end dimple as well, due to the bigger size of the excimer lamp comparative to the HID arc tubes.
And, of course, the excimer lamp itself, in order to become the 'arc tube' of the new lamp. Some excimer lamps have a larger socket at one end, which is unnecessary, and it has to be removed.
Q - What about the arc-tube (in fact the 'on market' excimer lamp, in the experiment)? What is the preferred range of power for the desired lamps? But, first of all, what kind of 'pressure' of lamp does it has to be, as long as it is also a discharge lamp?
A - We will see,... but, in any way it needs to be a 'high pressure excimer lamp'.
Q - OK! Let's see then! To what degree does the excimer lamps resamble the arc-tube of a HID lamp, or the 'medium pressure UV lamp'? We consider a certain resemblance to be needed, so that the excimer lamp need to fit inside the outer bulb used for HID lamps, isn't it?
A - Yes, there is at least the need that the excimer lamp fit inside an ED/BT bulb, of at least ED28/ED90, or larger. The more, the frame with the mounted excimer lamp has to pass through the neck of the outer bulb during the assembling.
Q - Can you give some examples of excimer lamps which fit inside of ED28/ED90 or ED37/ED120 outer bulbs?
A - Yes! We'll see it together...
Q - Can we have one example of excimer lamp that fits into an ED28/ED90 outer bulb?
A - Consider this one: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234935849_Efficient_XeI_excimer_ultraviolet_sources_from_a_dielectric_barrier_discharge – Power-75W; arc-tube: outer dia-30mm; length-80mm; pressure up to 1bar; voltage-4.5...10kV, 125...375kHz; XeI* UV-253nm.
This is another example using a similar arc-tube, outer dia-30mm; length-80mm: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224487405_Investigation_of_high_efficient_excimer_UV_sources_from_a_dielectric_barrier_discharge_in_rare_gashalogen_sources - Power-40W; pressure up to 800mbar; voltage~3.5kV; KrCl* UV-222nm.
Imagine it roughly like the left one in the depictions above, thus is it not that.
Q - Can we have another example of excimer lamp that fits into an ED37/ED120 outer bulb?
A - Let's say, this one: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2014148325A1/en - Arc-tube (quartz glass): outer dia-16mm; length-170mm; pressure~15KPa; VUV-172nm.
In the depiction on top, the image on right resambles it at best, but the same, not that is.
Q - Can you give an example of fluorescent coated excimer lamp, or at least of a paper about?
A - Yes, we can! One is the previous example: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2014148325A1/en, but there are others, as this one: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286820995_High_Efficiency_Fluorescent_Excimer_Lamps_an_Alternative_to_CFLs_and_White_Light_LEDs.
Q - Now, as we have also certain examples, what kind of fluorescent coatings can we expect to be suitable?
A – As in the previous post, there will be the fluorescent coatings as there are used for color light fluorescent tubes and neon signs. And, now there is a much greater expectance for a proper working, due to the moderate temperature of the excimer lamp.
Q - So, there will be no need to oversize the outer bulb in order to achieve a lower temperature on the fluorescent coating?
A - It is so by so 'oversized', if we put it that way. For instance, the 75W excimer lamp (in example above) fits barely inside the ED28/ED90 outer bulb. But what you need is also a sufficient area of the outer bulb, so the research only will answer.
Q - The depictions above show an EX39 type of socket, which we know to be used for protected metal halide lamps designed for unclosed lighting fixtures. Is it somehow the case for these excimer lamps too?
A - No! It's not. The scope of this particular screw-cap, EX39, is chosen in the context in which we have also designed a special EX39 lampholder to be used for high voltage lamps.
Consider this lamp to be researched together with our special proposed EX39 porcelain lampholder.
A - No! It's not. The scope of this particular screw-cap, EX39, is chosen in the context in which we have also designed a special EX39 lampholder to be used for high voltage lamps.
The solution of the EX39 was 'borrowed' because it allowed us to design this lampholder with a shield (collar), that in-goes the space between the 2 contacts of the lamp, in order to prevent arcing from the high voltage:
So, in this case, it has nothing common with unclosed lighting fixtures. But in no case will our proposed excimer lamps be used in common EX39 lampholders, or in other common E39/E40 ones.Consider this lamp to be researched together with our special proposed EX39 porcelain lampholder.
Q - Now! Back, about the fluorescent powders, you claim to be that ones used for low pressure mercury lamps. As these are known to be designed as most sensitive for 254nm, do we have excimer lamps emitting UV at these range? It seems that the only one is the XeI* lamp.
A - If we go to the patent linked above, we find that the fluorescent excimer lamp proposed for lighting is a VUV one, with 172nm emission. It uses almost successful the fluorescent coatings for 254nm.
A - If we go to the patent linked above, we find that the fluorescent excimer lamp proposed for lighting is a VUV one, with 172nm emission. It uses almost successful the fluorescent coatings for 254nm.
It's an example that you have to question everything and to be open to possibilities. Rigid belief system limits you more than anything...
- If we also go to this patent https://patents.google.com/patent/US3778662A/en we find that "...many conventional fluorescent phosphors which are normally excited by prior art fluorescent lamp discharges with atomic radiation of primarily 2,537 A. U., are even more sensitive to the far ultraviolet ionic radiation in the range of 1,600 to 2,300 A".
Q - Is there still another gas or another fluorescent coating that might be involved for these excimer lamps?
A - Yes! There are the He2* (74nm) and the Ne2* (83nm) excimer lamps:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226022368_Development_and_Applications_of_UV_Excimer_Lamps and the "215 phosphor": https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2157208C/en
"Type 251 phosphor is responsive to the 74 nanometer neon radiation, and emits a green colored light, that in combination with some of the neon red light, produces an amber light.", thus this patent is not about excimer lamps.
- Take also in consideration the fluorescent coatings used for high pressure mercury lamps, that are appreciated as sensitive to the near UV wavelengths. In this respect, let's go back to the link to the above publication and think at the XeF* (354nm), I2* (342nm), and XeCl* (308nm).
more content to come...
EX39 Bulb base detail
[image only for illustration and educative purposes]
High efficiency fluorescent excimer lamps: An alternative to mercury based UVC lamps
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286820995_High_Efficiency_Fluorescent_Excimer_Lamps_an_Alternative_to_CFLs_and_White_Light_LEDs
Fluorescent excimer lamps
Useful links:
High efficiency fluorescent excimer lamps: An alternative to mercury based UVC lamps
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286820995_High_Efficiency_Fluorescent_Excimer_Lamps_an_Alternative_to_CFLs_and_White_Light_LEDs
Fluorescent excimer lamps
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8946993.pdf
Excitation of phosphors by UV XeI excimer radiation
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10582-006-0267-3
Excimer lamp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excimer_lamp
Excitation of phosphors by UV XeI excimer radiation
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10582-006-0267-3
Excimer lamp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excimer_lamp
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